sunsetsuperman1.livejournal.com 13.02.2016 14:52

Unprecedented Moscow Patriarch meeting with Pope provoked a strange reaction in a patriotic community. Some people are happy that now two churches will work together to beat the traditional values on liberastov, others - that the meeting took place in communist Cuba, and then ..., and others - that Rome removed from the UGCC. There are a number of views, but in general -sploshnaya peremoga.

Alas, it is far from the truth. I am even ready to assert itself this meeting and signed her on the document stage is the implementation of the objectives of the Vatican, and the Vlasov Ecumenists wing of the ROC. Let's look at some of the items of the signed document.

5. Despite the general tradition of the first ten centuries, Catholics and Orthodox for nearly a thousand years of lack of communication in the Eucharist. We divided the wounds caused in conflicts distant and recent past, divided and inherited from our predecessors differences in understanding and explanations of our faith in God, one in three persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We mourn the loss of unity, which has become a consequence of human weakness and sinfulness, which occurred despite the high priestly prayer of Christ the Savior: "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us" (Jn . 17:21).

Why is this language? The Orthodox Church is no unity with no one lost and no one is separated. When Catholics give up heretical dogma, will and common Eucharist, and everything else. Those. it is necessary to speak not "lack of communication in the Eucharist," and Catholics separated from one church, they deprived themselves of this.

6. Aware of the many obstacles to be overcome, we hope that our meeting will contribute to the attainment of God-commanded unity for which Christ prayed. Let our meeting inspire Christians around the world with a new zeal to call upon the Lord, praying for the full unity of all his disciples.

The only real obstacle - a dogma of the Catholic Church, but a word about it.

14. Testifying to the high values of religious freedom, we give thanks to God for an unprecedented revival of the Christian faith, which is now going on in Russia and in many countries of Eastern Europe, where for decades dominated by atheistic regimes. Today, militant atheism the chains dropped, and in many places, Christians are free to practice their faith.

To paraphrase: we thank God for the fact that the Soviet Union destroyed.

24. Orthodox and Catholics are united not only by a common tradition of the Church of the first millennium, but also the mission of preaching the Gospel of Christ in the world today. This mission involves mutual respect of members of the Christian communities, excludes any form of proselytism. We are not rivals and brothers: this understanding we must proceed in all our actions in relation to each other and to the outside world. We urge Catholics and Orthodox in all countries learn to live together in peace, love and harmony with one another (Romans 15: 5.). You should not use improper means to force believers to move from one church to another, neglecting their religious freedom and their own traditions.

And it's signed by the pope Jesuit Order member, which is the task of proselytizing. In addition, it means "unanimity" between Catholics and Orthodox? Dogma is that it has already been reduced to a common denominator? The Pope has primacy? Does this mean that the "unanimously" with the Orthodox Catholics must obey the Pope?

25. We hope that our meeting will contribute to reconciliation where there is friction between the Greek Catholics and the Orthodox. Today it is obvious that the method "uniatizma" of past centuries, involving the reduction of one community in unity with the other by its separation from his Church, is not the way to restore unity.

Of course, it assumes no. The new version of "uniatizma" - a version adjusted to the modern Jesuits, based on the rejection of all that anything but the primacy of the Pope. All differences are not significant, all Christians - brothers, all of the traditional values, no proselytism, all fighting for social change (though only in the capitalist world - is unquestioned dogma), all against secularism. But the Pope - Chief Bishop. And do not say that it is not union. Patriarchate of Constantinople second union (after the Ferrara-Florence) did not sign, but anathema to the Vatican removed without any solutions whatsoever dogmatic and theological issues. Patriarch of Constantinople by Pope commits a joint service despite the fact that the refusal of the papal primacy is not. The union is the real.

Let's recall of some of the most odious decisions of the Second Vatican Council, easy to understand, can be "unanimity" between Catholics and Orthodox or not.

First, the Second Vatican Council affirmed infallible magisterium of the Pope ex cathedra. The Pope is infallible. Accept?

Secondly, it is said that the Church of Christ can be only one, and that it subsists in the Catholic Church, although it notes that "outside of her (the Church) of the composition are gained many beginning of sanctification and truth that are being gifts peculiar to the Church of Christ, impel to catholic unity. " Those. Orthodox Church in truth is only partially.Accept?

Third, Catholic ecumenism does not imply the abolition of inter-confessional differences by bringing dogmas of churches to a single compromise version. Such an interpretation of ecumenism is not acceptable as Catholic dogma assumes that all the fullness of truth subsists in the Catholic Church. Catholic ecumenism, according to the fathers of the cathedral is in respect to all that in other denominations, which is consistent with the Catholic faith. Allow and encourage fraternal dialogue and joint prayers with representatives of other Christian churches.

Exactly to a tee what was signed at the meeting of Pope with the Patriarch. Fraternal dialogue where there is no conflict with Catholicism, and the truth only for Catholics. It says clearly - this is a new model of Catholic ecumenism. Instead of "uniatizma". Accept?

And fourthly, in the Declaration Nostra aetate it said that "non-Christian religions meet principles of human wisdom, recognizing a supreme being; Islam, Judaism and Christianity offer a vision of God - the only creator who created man and give him a reward or punishment for his actions. "

We condemn anti-Semitism, but it is not the case. The fact that it is a vision of one God in three religions. And this is how? Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims and Jews, not at all. Do I have to understand that from now on the Catholics refused to Trinity? After all, Jews and Muslims do not accept such documents, which means that from his understanding of the nature of God did not refuse. And after that, the Patriarch said that Orthodox and Catholics - brothers in Christ? But it turns out the problem is not only in heresy papacy, but also in the fact that God is different.

Thus, signed by Pope and Patriarch Ecumenical document completely and in one of the points quite specifically anti-Soviet. It should be understood that the implementation of the meeting - the result of years of preparatory work is very particular wing of the ROC in the face of the most active ecumenist and in due time lobbyist idea of uniting with the ROC (s) Metropolitan Hilarion (son of Alphaeus). Recall that the Russian Orthodox Church Synod (B) once said: "to the question" whether the gene was Vlasov and his followers - traitors to Russia.? ", We say - no" .

Several interesting landmarks of the biography of Metropolitan:

1995 - graduated from Oxford University with a degree of Doctor of Philosophy. 
In 1997-1999 he taught courses on Dogmatic Theology at St. Vladimir's Seminary in New York (USA) and the mystical theology of the Eastern Church in the theological faculty of the University of Cambridge (UK). 
2002 - appointed head of the Representation of the Russian Orthodox church to the European institutions. Over the years, he was a member of the Executive and Central Committees of the ecumenical World Council of Churches, the Permanent Commission for Dialogue between the Orthodox Churches and the Anglican Church.
2006 - called for a Catholic-Orthodox Alliance for the protection of traditional Christianity in Europe. "I'm talking about the need to conclude between the Churches of a strategic alliance, pact, alliance for the protection of traditional Christianity as such - protection from all modern challenges, whether militant liberalism or militant atheism." 
2013 - The medal "For merits in the field of tolerance" (Ecumenical organization of tolerance).

Very authoritative Orthodox theologian Jean-Claude Larcher said that the views associated with Hilarion uniatism and Catholic opinion on the writings of Pope championship Hilarion was seen Archpriest Valentin Asmus.

Sorry for the long quote, but without it in any way. From the work of Valentin Asmus' book About hieromonk Hilarion (son of Alphaeus), "Mystery of Faith":

"There is a book about. Hilarion and other things that we can not agree. It certainly reflected the ideology of modern ecumenism. Of course, there are different ecumenism, and some leaders of ecumenism with the Orthodox side, at least initially, to be tried within the ecumenical movement by none other than the Orthodox witness. And in order to bear witness to Orthodoxy, does not need to avoid sensitive issues, to smooth the corners; on the contrary, to clarify mutual positions need to exactly how the questions can be put sharper who share the Christian world. 
Unfortunately, in a book about. Hilarion, we did not find. On the contrary, many passages in it sounds as if about. Hilarion in any case does not want to offend the Western Christians, want to tell them a pleasant, even sacrificing the truth. For example, the following sentence: 
"pre-emptive power (. Implied in the universal Church - o.V.A.) from the first centuries enjoyed the bishop of Rome, as the Primate of the Apostolic See," which occupies a place of Peter and the degree of the saint of the department, "as St. . Cyprian of Carthage "(P.113). By the way, and a quote from the Holy Father in handy! 
We know that historical reality does not meet this assertion. Hilarion. Just in the first century, even in the West, in the area, which eventually took shape as one of the patriarchates of the universal Church, there was no such absolute power of Rome. And the same saint Cyprian of Carthage came into very sharp conflict with Rome, and showed that it does not recognize that the power of Rome, which says. Hilarion. It was not in the Church of the first centuries. 
Yet it should be noted in a book about. Hilarion, the author in the spirit of ecumenical ideology, calls to abandon the attitude of heretics, which requires us to the whole Orthodox Church tradition. For example, the holy Fathers forbid praying with heretics, but to us, they say, it's not a decree. In general, according to. Hilarion, can not be equated to the heterodox ancient heretics. That's what literally says. Hilarion: 
"Orthodox Christian ... must be able to distinguish from heterodoxy heresy" (p.139). And what, then, is characterized by modern non-Orthodox confession from some ancient heresy? For example, there are Monophysite church. How should we treat them? A. Hilarion offers to treat them not as heretics. But they are heretics, by definition, because the Ecumenical Councils of those declared, whether we like it or not. 
Or - the more important for us to be different from Catholicism, these ancient Nestorian and Monophysite churches? At different times, the Orthodox Church in different ways committed Catholics receiving communion. Sometimes they re-baptized (so still arrive on Mount Athos and in some other places), and sometimes they were received through Confirmation, sometimes they took "third rank", like the Nestorians and Monophysites. That's what takes them into the fellowship of the Russian Orthodox Church from the XVIII century. However, this does not mean that Catholics are completely free from heresy, as well as Nestorianism and Monophysitism.When the indulgent attitude towards them, they still remain heretical tendencies. 
Finally, with the help of quotations from St. Augustine, about. Hilarion tries to justify the doctrine which in general is very similar to the Lutheran - doctrine of the visible and invisible church. We know that St. Augustine - the name wrangle. St Augustine - is a great man and a great scholar, and yet we can not close our eyes to the fact that some of his opinions, which at one time were only a private opinion, played a fateful role in the history of the church. The teaching of St. Augustine is at the heart of the famous doctrine of the Filioque. This is the most important dogmatic Catholicism retreat from Orthodoxy. And then, in the XVI century, the Augustinian monk Martin Luther, after reading Augustine (maybe something wrong understanding, but something caught the very accurately) created his revolutionary doctrine, which led the Western world further away from Orthodoxy than receded from him Catholicism. So to St. Augustine, we should still be treated with a certain argument.And another quote proves nothing of St. Augustine. "

And one more thing from the biography.

To shoot at people, and thus violate the oath during the events of January 1991 in Vilnius, as rector of the Orthodox Cathedral in Kaunas, Hieromonk Hilarion (Alpheus) called on the radio of the Soviet soldiers did not carry a possible order.

Fragments of the "Appeal to the officers and soldiers of the Soviet Army" Hieromonk Hilarion which aired on television Kaunas every hour:

"Lovely, family, my fellow warriors! For Lithuania came terrible days. The shedding of blood of innocent people: more than 15 dead, over 150 wounded, 58 missing. All these crimes were committed by the hands of soldiers who had orders to shoot unarmed people. Those who gave this monstrous order - true successor of the executioners, who were shot and repressed people in the 20s, 30s, 40s, throughout Soviet history. The executioners of those times history has already rendered its verdict, his curse. Today's butchers face the same fate. Their crime is incredibly great, immeasurable their wines to the whole country, to the people of God. The blood of the slain, the blood of the biblical Abel, cries out from the ground and cries out to God. My brothers, the soldiers and officers!If you receive an order once again to shoot at unarmed people, again push their tank tracks - not to obey the orders! Shoot into the air, do not shoot, do anything, just do not spill innocent blood! Human life is priceless, it is - is sacred, and can not participate in the murder redeem anything. All the murderers - those who give orders and those who carry them out - a shame, curse, anathema! Above you and your families shall be a blessing of God. I believe in you and hope for your wisdom, your human conscience. "

1992 - Hilarion receives government Lithuanian award - the medal "For courage and self-sacrifice" in memory of January 13 for what at the time supported the movement "Sąjūdis." 
"Sąjūdis" - a Lithuanian Nazi Party, glorifying the collaborators during the Second World War, as well as demanded from Russia to withdraw troops from Chechnya, to give her independence and financial compensation. Hilarion, then said: "what is happening in Chechnya shows that Russia has no right to be called Orthodox Christian country."
Moreover, when the representatives of "Sąjūdis" announced that Soviet soldiers did not shoot at demonstrators in Vilnius, Hilarion continued blame the Soviet military aggression.

The pattern is different from the current situation to the Maidan, is not clear. The same figure, the same idea, the same purpose. And mandatory anti-communist frame with inevitable rehabilitation Vlasov (in Ukraine - Bandera).

It is clear that on the eve of elections to the Duma and presidential elections, and then, activates the elite pool, which is crushed at the Swamp in 2011-2012 and then in 2014 (meaning the collection of small half of the territory of Donbass Banderovites). Activated by the task of Russia's European integration by parts. And Catholic ecumenism along with decommunisation (What is also activated) certainly is an integral part of this integration. The question is how Vlasov wing ROC could put pressure on the patriarch, who recently spoke about the unity of history, that in Soviet times, the Russian people could realize their age-old dream of justice, etc.? Although, it is not necessary to be surprised. Skeletons in the closet full of all. So, it is not the end but only the beginning of the project "Reconstruction of 2", which can only result in the dismemberment of Russia. And hope that the ROC will be one of the most important bastions in the way of a liberal-fascist "evrointegratorov" less and less.